Shootings On The U.S. Army Post At Ft. Hood In Texas

[Speak1]

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It appears we have a tragic situation at Ft. Hood in Texas in the southern United States, but at this time the only facts we have are that there are deaths and there are wounded from at least one gunmen using a weapon in a manner that is inconsistent with the law governing the use of such weapons. How many are dead and wounded is not clear, nor is it yet clear how many gunmen are or were involved. Of course, at this time few know the motive or motives behind this tragic business.

it will be a while before we are able to sift through the flood of information coming in right now and get a clear picture of what took place, or may still be taking place.

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Right now MSNBC is reporting 7 dead, 20 injured. I have that channel on right now but they are making it clear numbers will change. Also that one of the shooters has been arrested but not sure if any more are out there. It is going to take a while to sort this situation out.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns ... nd_courts/

[Smitty]

Yes I picked up the same on a m/c board & those dead, injured, of the shooters keeps on changing. Sometimes we have to wonder about some of our soldiers.

If I recall correctly two female soldiers, a Cpl, & a recently promoted Captain ended up being dead where the slept. Nothing has been mentioned though most of us realized the stress was to much for them & they each committed suicided, but the Govt will not admit this.

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It happened at the Soldier Reddiness Facility. They are 12 dead, and 20-30 injured. According to the Military spokesman, two more soldiers have been arrested.

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They have identified the gunman:


An Army psychiatrist opened fire Thursday at Fort Hood, Texas, killing at least 11 people and wounding 31 others before being shot to death, officials told NBC News.

NBC News’ Pete Williams reported that U.S. officials identified the gunman as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist who had been promoted to major in May. A defense official told NBC News that Hasan arrived at Fort Hood in July for his first assignment after completing his psychiatry residency at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, followed by a fellowship in disaster and preventive psychiatry. Hasan, who was 39 or 40, was scheduled to be deployed to Iraq on Nov. 28, officials said. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said military officials had told her that Hasan was “pretty upset” about his deployment orders.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns ... nd_courts/

[Speak1]

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Yes, I've been hesitant to post up to now, but this seems to match what I have been getting from personal sources. That it was the work of one individual. That for me was the first important point to clear up. More than one indicates conspiracy and takes the whole matter to a higher level of violence and associated motives.

I'm not trying to state that one individual isn't bad enough, but from an investigation point of view one is much different than two or three and the reports of more than one had me quite worried. The post commander was indicating suspects in custody a few hours ago and that was why I was giving credence to the news reports giving the same information.

I heard a bit back that the "suspects" had been released, but didn't get confirmation, so didn't post here.

Actually, confirming anything in this type of situation is not at all easy.

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NBC is reporting the lockdown is over. I can't find any more updates on the story and there may not be any until tomorrow. So much to deal with, plus digging into his past. Unfortunately the reason why may never be known.

[Speak-Ez]

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It certainly does seem hard to confirm reports. It is now being reported by many news sites that the suspect is actually alive. Shot, but only wounded.

If so, we just might be able to better understand the reason why this happened. Not much consolation to the friends and loved ones of those killed, but some good may come out of this if the specialists can learn what triggered this rampage.

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Sadly the death toll has risen to 13.


FORT HOOD, Texas - Military officials were starting Friday to piece together what may have pushed an Army psychiatrist trained to help soldiers in distress to turn on his comrades in a shooting rampage that killed 13 people and wounded 30 in Texas.

The suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was on a ventilator and unconscious in a hospital after being shot four times during the shootings at the Army's sprawling Fort Hood, post officials said. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived. In Washington, a senior U.S. official said authorities at Fort Hood initially thought one of the victims who had been shot and killed was the shooter. The mistake resulted in a delay of several hours in identifying Hasan as the alleged assailant.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns ... fort_hood/


The red flags were there. Internet postings by him that he felt solidarity with suicide bombers. He required counceling and extra supervision. A retired General was interviewed on the TODAY show said the warning signs were there. That tough questions have to be answered as to why he was red flagged yet would be shipped out.

[Smitty]

Seems the newly appointed Major Army psychiatrist had beeen trying to get out of the Army, but as the Army requires one to put in said yrs before they can step out, this was not working his way. Also in being Muslim it was against his god & faith to shoot fellow muslims, thought he was about to be posted to Iraq.

Mind you in the position as Major Army Psychiatrists, he would NOT be out in the front like shooting at fellow muslims, but consulting some of the wounded soldiers as a psychiatrist. I am assuming in civilian life he would be like many doctors of psychiatrrist.

Unfortunately all of this killing fellow muslims had gone to his head where things went wrong in his brain. Yet neighbors stated he or his friends were very polite, but definately of the muslim faith. For he was born in the USA & muslim from day one.

The woman that shot him was a police officer that got off 4 rounds that did not kill him, but probably paralized him, while he had hit her several times as well. So it was a bit of a shoot-out. Now will be the question if she will live.

When you think of it we have chaps during WWI, WWII, to Korean War, tack on Viet Nam to Iraq & Afghanistan THAT do not want to kill anyone, but when one calls out "Medic" they scurry along the front lines to do a temporary job of saving soldiers lives. Those chaps should be given medals for their work & chancing their lives all the time.